diff --git a/discord/server.py b/discord/server.py
index 5b6232926..c787a6408 100644
--- a/discord/server.py
+++ b/discord/server.py
@@ -86,7 +86,7 @@ class Server(Hashable):
 
     __slots__ = [ 'afk_timeout', 'afk_channel', '_members', '_channels', 'icon',
                   'name', 'id', 'owner', 'unavailable', 'name', 'me', 'region',
-                  '_default_role', '_default_channel', 'roles' ]
+                  '_default_role', '_default_channel', 'roles', '_member_count']
 
     def __init__(self, **kwargs):
         self._channels = {}
@@ -136,6 +136,8 @@ class Server(Hashable):
         return before, member
 
     def _from_data(self, guild):
+        # according to Stan, this is always available even if the guild is unavailable
+        self._member_count = guild['member_count']
         self.name = guild.get('name')
         self.region = guild.get('region')
         try:
@@ -204,3 +206,8 @@ class Server(Hashable):
         if self.icon is None:
             return ''
         return 'https://cdn.discordapp.com/icons/{0.id}/{0.icon}.jpg'.format(self)
+
+    @property
+    def member_count(self):
+        """Returns the true member count regardless of it being loaded fully or not."""
+        return self._member_count
diff --git a/discord/state.py b/discord/state.py
index be73c4fb1..644f9a179 100644
--- a/discord/state.py
+++ b/discord/state.py
@@ -204,6 +204,7 @@ class ConnectionState:
         data['roles'] = roles
         member = Member(server=server, **data)
         server._add_member(member)
+        server._member_count += 1
         self.dispatch('member_join', member)
 
     def parse_guild_member_remove(self, data):
@@ -213,6 +214,7 @@ class ConnectionState:
             member = server.get_member(user_id)
             if member is not None:
                 server._remove_member(member)
+                server._member_count -= 1
                 self.dispatch('member_remove', member)
 
     def parse_guild_member_update(self, data):