diff --git a/discord/webhook/async_.py b/discord/webhook/async_.py
index c11090b5a..d1063c4fe 100644
--- a/discord/webhook/async_.py
+++ b/discord/webhook/async_.py
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ from ..user import BaseUser, User
 from ..asset import Asset
 from ..http import Route
 from ..mixins import Hashable
-from ..object import Object
+from ..channel import PartialMessageable
 
 __all__ = (
     'Webhook',
@@ -58,6 +58,7 @@ if TYPE_CHECKING:
     from ..file import File
     from ..embeds import Embed
     from ..mentions import AllowedMentions
+    from ..state import ConnectionState
     from ..types.webhook import (
         Webhook as WebhookPayload,
     )
@@ -579,10 +580,11 @@ class _FriendlyHttpAttributeErrorHelper:
 class _WebhookState:
     __slots__ = ('_parent', '_webhook')
 
-    def __init__(self, webhook, parent):
-        self._webhook = webhook
+    def __init__(self, webhook: Any, parent: Optional[Union[ConnectionState, _WebhookState]]):
+        self._webhook: Any = webhook
 
-        if isinstance(parent, self.__class__):
+        self._parent: Optional[ConnectionState]
+        if isinstance(parent, _WebhookState):
             self._parent = None
         else:
             self._parent = parent
@@ -595,10 +597,12 @@ class _WebhookState:
     def store_user(self, data):
         if self._parent is not None:
             return self._parent.store_user(data)
-        return BaseUser(state=self, data=data)
+        # state parameter is artificial
+        return BaseUser(state=self, data=data)  # type: ignore
 
     def create_user(self, data):
-        return BaseUser(state=self, data=data)
+        # state parameter is artificial
+        return BaseUser(state=self, data=data)  # type: ignore
 
     @property
     def http(self):
@@ -748,9 +752,9 @@ class BaseWebhook(Hashable):
         '_state',
     )
 
-    def __init__(self, data: WebhookPayload, token: Optional[str] = None, state=None):
+    def __init__(self, data: WebhookPayload, token: Optional[str] = None, state: Optional[ConnectionState] = None):
         self.auth_token: Optional[str] = token
-        self._state = state or _WebhookState(self, parent=state)
+        self._state: Union[ConnectionState, _WebhookState] = state or _WebhookState(self, parent=state)
         self._update(data)
 
     def _update(self, data: WebhookPayload):
@@ -765,10 +769,8 @@ class BaseWebhook(Hashable):
         user = data.get('user')
         self.user: Optional[Union[BaseUser, User]] = None
         if user is not None:
-            if self._state is None:
-                self.user = BaseUser(state=None, data=user)
-            else:
-                self.user = User(state=self._state, data=user)
+            # state parameter may be _WebhookState
+            self.user = User(state=self._state, data=user)  # type: ignore
 
         source_channel = data.get('source_channel')
         if source_channel:
@@ -1179,7 +1181,9 @@ class Webhook(BaseWebhook):
 
     def _create_message(self, data):
         state = _WebhookState(self, parent=self._state)
-        channel = self.channel or Object(id=int(data['channel_id']))
+        # state may be artificial (unlikely at this point...)
+        channel = self.channel or PartialMessageable(state=self._state, id=int(data['channel_id']))  # type: ignore
+        # state is artificial
         return WebhookMessage(data=data, state=state, channel=channel)  # type: ignore
 
     @overload
diff --git a/discord/webhook/sync.py b/discord/webhook/sync.py
index a3b2f156f..170b387d3 100644
--- a/discord/webhook/sync.py
+++ b/discord/webhook/sync.py
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ from .. import utils
 from ..errors import InvalidArgument, HTTPException, Forbidden, NotFound, DiscordServerError
 from ..message import Message
 from ..http import Route
-from ..object import Object
+from ..channel import PartialMessageable
 
 from .async_ import BaseWebhook, handle_message_parameters, _WebhookState
 
@@ -373,6 +373,8 @@ class SyncWebhookMessage(Message):
     .. versionadded:: 2.0
     """
 
+    _state: _WebhookState
+
     def edit(
         self,
         content: Optional[str] = MISSING,
@@ -745,8 +747,10 @@ class SyncWebhook(BaseWebhook):
 
     def _create_message(self, data):
         state = _WebhookState(self, parent=self._state)
-        channel = self.channel or Object(id=int(data['channel_id']))
-        return SyncWebhookMessage(data=data, state=state, channel=channel)
+        # state may be artificial (unlikely at this point...)
+        channel = self.channel or PartialMessageable(state=self._state, id=int(data['channel_id']))  # type: ignore
+        # state is artificial
+        return SyncWebhookMessage(data=data, state=state, channel=channel)  # type: ignore
 
     @overload
     def send(